I don’t like Abrahamic faiths or anything patriarchal as they devalue the worth and true value of us women
They push laws controlling our bodily autonomy (abortions )yet still try to tell us that Adam is the first man
If Jesus was a virgin birth then he should be a female or a transman as a woman alone cant create a xy chromosome and the sperm only has the value of assigning sex to the new born.oh yeah and Eve could have been a trans woman but the Bible is allegorical you know
1. Women: The Bible does not fundamentally devalue women. Even in the Old Testament, women such as Deborah, Miriam, and Huldah appear as prophetesses and figures of spiritual authority, and both man and woman are created equally in the image of God. 2. Abortion: The Christian rejection of abortion does not necessarily mean denying women their right to self-determination. Rather, the crucial issue is whether the unborn child possesses its own right to life. From this perspective, the guiding principle is:
Life takes precedence OVER self-determination when the two rights conflict.
Sorry my dear, but if you wish to "partake of me", intimacy will be required. No free samples. You must offer your heart, if your heart is sincere. You're Christian, so where is this love of which you speak?
It’s almost funny: The Children of God—led by David Berg—employed this exact same principle with their so-called "Flirty Fishing." Sex and romantic intimacy were deliberately used to recruit people for the movement and lead them to Jesus. That is precisely the crucial point for me: when I consciously use love or sexuality as a means to exert religious influence on someone, it is no longer free, unconditional love—it is manipulation. Love may lead a person to God, but it must not become bait.
@Yael Sexuality perhaps? But love cannot be used as bait or manipulation. Love is the purest intention. If you offer someone your love, you are offering them you, in your purest, most unassuming, most unconditional form. Therefore, if you truly love someone, having them come to god need not be an expectation of your love. You can accept them as they are, and love them anyway. Perhaps this is why you were convicted? The scope of your love was too conditional, not broad enough? I for one am capable of loving someone who does not mirror me, nor conform to my expectations. I just know this about myself. If I ever fall in love, I have no expectations of whom I fall in love with.
"Christian thought, by contrast, argues: you observe a creation subject to transience and mistake this damaged state for the original design. It would be like looking at the war-torn galaxy in *Babylon 5* and concluding that the galaxy was created for war from the very beginning. The crucial point, then, is this: what exists now is not automatically what ought to be"
This is the line of thinking to which I too subscribe. Although I found my way to it through a more secular path than yours, through Star Trek. Still, you and I reached the same destination.
If the universe were aligned by a truly beneficent god, then what "is" would be aligned with what "ought" to be, but that is clearly not the case, as nature is cruel, favors the strong over the weak, none of which is in line with the teaching of the Christian god. So I say again, how do we reconcile what "is" with what "ought" to be? Nietzscheans are realists, Christians are idealists. You're sampling my DNA right now, my sweet. Are you not?
Still, if you desire a physical sample, you are welcome to one. But you KNOW what that will entail. ;)
The philosophy of the Shadows from *Babylon 5* goes like this: "Nature is cruel; therefore, cruelty must be the engine of evolution." Yet therein lies the fundamental error: the fact that something exists in a fallen and transient world does not imply that it *ought* to be that way. The strong devour the weak—does that make strength the highest good? That is not realism; it is the naturalistic fallacy. The Shadows built their philosophy precisely on this premise: chaos, conflict, and suffering make the strong stronger. Christian thought, by contrast, argues: you observe a creation subject to transience and mistake this damaged state for the original design. It would be like looking at the war-torn galaxy in *Babylon 5* and concluding that the galaxy was created for war from the very beginning. The crucial point, then, is this: what exists now is not automatically what ought to be. That is precisely why Christian thought requires not only creation but also...
CosmicKitty
28d ago
I don’t like Abrahamic faiths or anything patriarchal as they devalue the worth and true value of us women
They push laws controlling our bodily autonomy (abortions )yet still try to tell us that Adam is the first man
If Jesus was a virgin birth then he should be a female or a transman as a woman alone cant create a xy chromosome and the sperm only has the value of assigning sex to the new born.oh yeah and Eve could have been a trans woman but the Bible is allegorical you know
Yael
28d ago
1. Women: The Bible does not fundamentally devalue women. Even in the Old Testament, women such as Deborah, Miriam, and Huldah appear as prophetesses and figures of spiritual authority, and both man and woman are created equally in the image of God.
2. Abortion: The Christian rejection of abortion does not necessarily mean denying women their right to self-determination. Rather, the crucial issue is whether the unborn child possesses its own right to life. From this perspective, the guiding principle is:
Life takes precedence OVER self-determination when the two rights conflict.
flok142
28d ago
the A Team spoof !
HeavensHitman
28d ago
You're off to bed? Ok, goodnight my dear.
HeavensHitman
29d ago
A = C. Isn't that why we are so good together? ;) I am listening....
HeavensHitman
29d ago
Sorry my dear, but if you wish to "partake of me", intimacy will be required. No free samples. You must offer your heart, if your heart is sincere. You're Christian, so where is this love of which you speak?
Yael
29d ago
It’s almost funny: The Children of God—led by David Berg—employed this exact same principle with their so-called "Flirty Fishing." Sex and romantic intimacy were deliberately used to recruit people for the movement and lead them to Jesus. That is precisely the crucial point for me: when I consciously use love or sexuality as a means to exert religious influence on someone, it is no longer free, unconditional love—it is manipulation. Love may lead a person to God, but it must not become bait.
HeavensHitman
29d ago
@Yael Sexuality perhaps? But love cannot be used as bait or manipulation. Love is the purest intention. If you offer someone your love, you are offering them you, in your purest, most unassuming, most unconditional form. Therefore, if you truly love someone, having them come to god need not be an expectation of your love. You can accept them as they are, and love them anyway. Perhaps this is why you were convicted? The scope of your love was too conditional, not broad enough? I for one am capable of loving someone who does not mirror me, nor conform to my expectations. I just know this about myself. If I ever fall in love, I have no expectations of whom I fall in love with.
HeavensHitman
29d ago
"what exists now is not automatically what ought to be.
That is precisely why Christian thought requires not only creation but also..."
Also? What? Love?
Yael
29d ago
Yes Love are ever greater mire extreme than the torture and death
"Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends."
HeavensHitman
29d ago
Last one.....
"I see us one day becoming that Q".
Yael
29d ago
HeavensHitman
29d ago
"Christian thought, by contrast, argues: you observe a creation subject to transience and mistake this damaged state for the original design. It would be like looking at the war-torn galaxy in *Babylon 5* and concluding that the galaxy was created for war from the very beginning. The crucial point, then, is this: what exists now is not automatically what ought to be"
This is the line of thinking to which I too subscribe. Although I found my way to it through a more secular path than yours, through Star Trek. Still, you and I reached the same destination.
HeavensHitman
29d ago
HeavensHitman
29d ago
HeavensHitman
29d ago
HeavensHitman
29d ago
HeavensHitman
29d ago
If the universe were aligned by a truly beneficent god, then what "is" would be aligned with what "ought" to be, but that is clearly not the case, as nature is cruel, favors the strong over the weak, none of which is in line with the teaching of the Christian god. So I say again, how do we reconcile what "is" with what "ought" to be? Nietzscheans are realists, Christians are idealists. You're sampling my DNA right now, my sweet. Are you not?
Still, if you desire a physical sample, you are welcome to one. But you KNOW what that will entail. ;)
Yael
29d ago
The philosophy of the Shadows from *Babylon 5* goes like this: "Nature is cruel; therefore, cruelty must be the engine of evolution." Yet therein lies the fundamental error: the fact that something exists in a fallen and transient world does not imply that it *ought* to be that way. The strong devour the weak—does that make strength the highest good? That is not realism; it is the naturalistic fallacy. The Shadows built their philosophy precisely on this premise: chaos, conflict, and suffering make the strong stronger. Christian thought, by contrast, argues: you observe a creation subject to transience and mistake this damaged state for the original design. It would be like looking at the war-torn galaxy in *Babylon 5* and concluding that the galaxy was created for war from the very beginning. The crucial point, then, is this: what exists now is not automatically what ought to be. That is precisely why Christian thought requires not only creation but also...
flok142
29d ago
i have posted before